** Season 2: Coming May, 2023 – See Below. **

Zoe Weil, Scott Meyer, Will Richardson, Ashanti Branch,

Doug Abrams, Middle States Association leadership, Wayee Chu,

Robert Scoble, Greg Nance, Seth Goldenberg, Loni Bergqvist,

Dr. Frederic Bertley, David Jimenez Randazzo

** Season 1: Released November, 2022 – See Below. **

Chris Lehmann, Kiran Bir Sethi, Dr. Brett Jacobsen, Dr. Christopher Emdin,

Gever Tulley, Saba Ghole, Rosan Bosch, Scott Witthoft,

Raya Bidshahri, Jaime Casap, Dan Garvey, Dan Kinzer

S2, Ep1:

Zoe Weil

Surrey, Maine, US

“If we transform schooling and educate a generation of solutionaries, we will witness the rapid development of peaceful, humane, and sustainable systems that are good for all people, animals, and the Earth that sustains us. It’s really that simple.”

Founder, Institute for Humane Education (IHE); Author of (7) books; (6) time TEDx speaker; Master’s in Theological Studies from the Harvard Divinity School.

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • Going on Wonder Walks: “the experience of having [one’s] senses fully come alive.”
  • Seeking evidence-based optimism
  • “We need to let go of the incremental growth mindset.”
  • One must find leverage points to create lasting systemic change.
  • The urgency to create a global solution-sharing movement *right now.”

S2, Ep3:

Scott Meyer

Fargo, North Dakota, US

“We need to look at Open Badges as a guide to what digital credentials should be: culturally significant and professionally recognized.”

Vice President, Proof of Learn; Founder, ed3 (consultancy); Curator, digest.ed3 (weekly newslettter); Founder, NICE Center; Founder, TEDxBrookings (SD); (previous) South Dakota’s “Young Entrepreneur of the Year”

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • “[You’re] not going to be replaced by A.I.”
  • A universal or “U.N.” credential.
  • Employers may start recognizing alternative credentials, rather than college degrees.
  • Make time adjust the learner; serve a learner’s passions and interests.
  • Imagining a future where all aspects of society are divided into separate

S2, Ep3:

Will Richardson

Flemington, New Jersey, US

We dont need school to be better. We need schools to be really, really different. We have to stop delivering the curriculum to kids. We have to start discovering it with them.

Co-Founder, Big Questions Institute; Author, multiple books; (3) time TEDx speaker; 1 of 100 “Changemakers in Education” by HundreED (2017).

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • Using design fiction to create ‘future artifacts’ to help us understand how we can start changing now
  • Being a speaker that is willing “to take an audience on a little bit of an emotional roller coaster”
  • Leadership creates the capacity to have difficult conversations re: future change
  • “A dominant narrative of success that goes against the direction that everyone kind of understands, we need to go [towards].”
  • Can anything “take the place of school at scale quickly…to go in some other direction?”

S2, Ep4:

Ashanti Branch

Oakland, California, US

“When my students aren’t learning, it’s not usually because they can’t: it’s because they have deep-seated barriers that are holding them back. We can’t change their past, but we can teach them to hold safe space, add to their emotional toolbox and to help each other.”

Founder, Ever Forward Club; Fulbright Scholar (India); Rotary Club Cultural Fellow (Mexico); Top-3 Finalist; LinkedIn’s “Compassion” Award; “The Masks We All Wear” – TEDxMarin talk viewed nearly 100,000 times.

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • Who can we be with where we can take our masks off, “to be our full, authentic selves?”
  • Creating space for vulnerability.
  • Most schools talk about wellness in their mission statement, but do kids actually feel that schools care about their wellness
  • Importance of teacher well-being.
  • Value of being fully seen and fully known.

S2, Ep5:

Doug Abrams

Santa Cruz, California, US

“My value as a writer is ‘truth hunting’ — The adventure of life and finding the secrets of how to live a good and meaningful life and how to create a wiser, healthier, and more just world.”

Founder & President, Idea Architects; Co-Author – with His Holiness, the Dalai Lama and Rev. Desmond Tutu, “The Book of Joy: Lasting Happiness in a Changing World;” Author, (2) novels; Founding team member, JustGive.org.

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • What is it like to work with some of the world’s most famous visionaries who are creating a wiser, healthier, more just world?
  • “The culture change game, to my mind, is the most interesting game happening on planet Earth.”
  • How each one of us is part of a global ‘human project’ that asks us: “Where do we want that to go and how do we contribute to it?
  • “All leadership is the creation of hope.”
  • Seeing every opportunity in life as a chance to positively impact one other.

S2, Ep6:

MSA-CESS: Christian Talbot, Dr. Nicole Grimes, + Meghan Cureton

Christian Talbot: Essex Falls, New Jersey, US

President & CEO, Middle States Association Commissions on Elementary and Secondary Schools; Co-Founder & Design Partner, Juno; Lecturer, University of Pennsylvania.

Dr. Nicole Grimes: New York City, US

CEO & Founder, Carib Biz Network; (former) HS Principal (New York City); Ph.D. Urban Education; Adjunct Assistant Professor (multiple universities); Consultant, MSA-CESS

Meghan Cureton: Atlanta, GA, US

Learning Experience Designer; Founder, Cureton Consulting; (former) US Head of Learning and Innovation, Mount Vernon School; Founding member, Impact.Ed; Consultant, MSA-CESS

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • Teacher growth and development should be guided by 3 principles: teacher strengths, spurring curiosity, and gamifying growth
  • Role of AI in Education: “AI could well be a major focus for a lot of schools going forward.”
  • Incubator accelerators for teenagers: “Get them into the marketplace to learn by doing.”
  • School accreditation processes “should be a conversation rather than a compliance check.”
  • Prototypes over Meetings.

S2, Ep7:

Wayee Chu

San Francisco, California, US

“It has given me more empathy to really think through the journeys our entrepreneurs and our founders have come from because my job is entirely to understand how founders make decisions.”

Founding Partner, Reach Capital; Board Member, San Francisco Museum of Modern Art; Board Member, Alumni Association of the University of Michigan; (previous) Co-Founder, NewSchools Seed Fund.

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • the big equity play in EdTech happening right now, particularly in terms of the equity gap that new technologies can and do create.
  • Best way to get kids to try new technologies, like AI or ChatGPT? Ban them!
  • The unintended consequences of new EdTech tools and platforms.
  • Why Empathy, Deep Humility, and Mission Alignment matter so much in the relationship between founders and funders.
  • Risk Tolerance similarities and differences as a parent and as a start-up investor.

S2, Ep8:

Seth Goldenberg

Jamestown, Rhode Island, US

“To conduct breakthroughs, we need to question everything. Likely in ways that will make us uncomfortable. When things have gotten this wobbly in the world it’s time to question the very roots of our assumptions.”

Founder and CEO, Epic Decade (a venture-based design studio) and Curiosity & Co. (an imagination company designing flourishing futures); Author, Radical Curiosity: Questioning Commonly Held Beliefs to Imagine Flourishing Futures“; (previous) VP and Director of Massive Change, Bruce Mau Design; (previous) Director of The Office of Public Engagement, Rhode Island School of Design.

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • Curiosity is “facing an extinction moment.”
  • The complex life cycle of curiosity as we mature and evolve.
  • Public imagination reboot re: the human condition.
  • Take a stand. Why Seth is “allergic to the term consultancy.”
  • Embracing “decade-scale transformations” of entire systems.

S2, Ep9:

Robert Scoble

Half Moon Bay, California, US

“With the tools for creation becoming ever simpler and less expensive and the quality of the final product improving at a very fast rate, there is the potential that consumer creations could rival professional ones.”

Chief Strategy Officer, Infinite Retina; (previous) Futurist, Rackspace; (previous) Strategist, Microsoft; 4x co-author; globally renowned technology expert re: AR, VR, and Spatial Computing.

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • With AI, stupid questions or prompts lead to stupid answers
  • How kids today must learn to adapt towards jobs in the future
  • Human identity in a world of exponential automation
  • How many microphones do you actually have in your own home today? And why does this matter?
  • The power of AI and emergent tech for those with disabilities

S2, Ep10:

Greg Nance

Seattle, Washington, US

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.”

Founder, Run Far Foundation; globally recognized and sponsored ultramarathoner; Co-Founder + Chairman, Moneythink; Principal, Parker Remick; Board Member, MakerGirl; Board Member, Truman Scholars Association; (previous) Founder + CEO, Dyad.

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • “Building a support system for young people’s mental health.”
  • The power of small grants and mentorship to catalyze youth to create lasting change.
  • The connection between physical activity, mental health, and nature.
  • Shifting mindsets from victimhood to empowerment.
  •  Greg’s own story of addiction: “hitting rock bottom” to “a second chance at life.”

S2, Ep11:

Loni Bergqvist

Sorø, Zealand, Denmark

“It’s such a pleasure being on the journey with schools who are brave enough to…dare to do something really different in service of meaningful learning for their kids…one project at a time.”

Founder and Partner, Imagine If; (previous) Project Based Learning Coach, Innovation Unit; (previous) Teacher, High Tech High.

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • The life-changing nature of hiking Spain’s Camino de Santiago trail.
  • Helping kids thrive by helping schools transform.
  • It’s not about Project-Based Learning. It’s about the WHY behind PBL.
  • The black box for true mindset change in schools.
  • Kids make impact when they realize they actually matter for the things that matter.

S2, Ep12:

Dr. Frederic Bertley

Columbus, Ohio, US

“One of the reasons I like science is, for the most part, it is an objective enterprise. Scientists, like all humans, have their biases, but in the end, the data is either reproducible or not, verifiable or not, then a truth emerges and the scientific enterprise moves on — regardless of anyone’s bias.”

CEO, COSI – Center of Science and Industry (led it to be voted America’s Best Science Museum 3 years in a row); (previous) Vice President, Center for Innovation in Science Learning, Franklin Institute; Dell Inspire 100 World Changers (2012); 7-time EMMY Award winner; Columbus CEO Magazine’s CEO of the Year (2018); Library of Congress ‘History Makers’ inductee (2015).

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • We enter the world as scientists.
  • Moving from Place-Based science centers to Space-Based science networks.
  • “There is sufficient… data that says the clock is ticking on the capacity for us to save the planet.”
  • Potential misuse of technology and the need for responsible decision-making.
  • How COSI’s “prepared mind” allowed it to successfully adapt during the Pandemic.

S1, Ep13:

David Jimenez Randazzo

Mexico City, Mexico + Los Angeles, California, US

What will make you happy long-term? Once you have that figured out, rewire the negative elements in your life and focus on your passions. Clarity allows you to filter out what stands in your way.

Co-Founder, Ticketblox; Music Producer working with Steve Aoiki, David Guetta, Chainsmokers, Akon, Pitbull, Cardi B, etc.; and Entertainment Festival producer, Electric Daisy Carnival, Boombastic, Ultra Music Festival, etc.

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • Understanding tech to better prepare youth for their futures.
  • Making the Internet work for you, not the other way around.
  • Give students the freedom to explore their unique passions.
  • The power of mentorship.
  • Combining Entertainment and Education.

S2, Ep14:

Dr. Annalies Corbin

Columbus, Ohio, US

When students have agency, magical things are possible.

Founder, President, + CEO, PAST Foundation; Host, “Learning Unboxed” podcast; Anthropologist and Archeologist (with expertise in Shipwreck Archeology); Adjunct Associate Professor of Anthropology, The Ohio State University; Awarded with “Smart 50 in Ohio for excellence in innovation;” Participant at the White House Summit on High School redesign; Awarded the STEM 2026 Excellence in Innovation by the U.S. Department of Education; recognized by the Clinton Global Initiative (2015); STEMconnector top 100 Women Leaders in STEM education.

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • The Power of Taking a Pause as a Leader.
  • Why an anthropologist built the STEM-based PAST Foundation.
  • The importance of fostering “problem-based” learning environments.
  • An R+D Lab to challenge Traditional Education Structures.
  • A belief in the capability of every child to solve global problems.

S1, Ep1:

Chris Lehmann

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

“If we understand that an active, engaged citizenry is the only pathway to a better world, then we understand that the role we play in school has to help it, right?”

CEO, the Science Leadership Academy school network; Founding Principal, Science Leadership Academy – City Center, Philadelphia; Co-Founder, Inquiry Schools; Co-Author, Building School 2.0: How to Create the Schools We Need; Co-Founder, Educon (annual conference)

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • why inquiry-based / real-world learning models foster the “21st Citizenry that we all need”
  • we must create “cultures of caring” that serve both students and educators
  • why the principal’s office should be located in the physical heart of a learning community, accessible to all by design
  • what purposeful systems-based coaching makes possible
  • why Ultimate frisbee is a powerful team / player experience (and catalyst for learning)

S1, Ep2:

Kiran Bir Sethi

Ahmedabad, India

“I never say that we’re the most successful school in the world. But we do know that we are the type of school that the world needs most right now.”

Founder, Riverside School, (Ahmedabad, India); Founder, Design for Change (in 63 countries); Ashoka Fellow (since 2009); Founder, aProCH (making cities children-friendly)

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • how a mother’s dream to create something for her own children grew into something truly global in scope and impact
  • why joy matters so much when it comes schools that matter – to their kids, to their families, and to their community
  • why you should challenge over-designed curriculum (“it can get so heavy”) by offering lighter frameworks that even the youngest child can take advantage of
  • the ‘one thing’ that a school leader could do next to uncover incredible opportunities for her / his school
  • while students now have access to limitless content, what they truly need is more time to pause, to reflect, and to notice

S1, Ep3:

Dr. Brett Jacobsen

Atlanta, Georgia, US

“You cannot have innovation fatigue unless you are in the arena constantly trying to innovate.”

CEO of The Mount Vernon School (Atlanta, Georgia), The Mount Vernon School Online (global) and Mount Vernon Ventures (global) portfolio of campuses / organizations; “Most Admired CEO” by Atlanta Business Chronicle (2017)

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • the vital importance of choosing to “fail up” as a community
  • one benefit of the pandemic: realizing that learning is no longer tied to time, space, or place
  • why leaders must ensure all colleagues are given space and support to have a “revival of meaning and purpose” in their daily practice and career
  • advice to other Heads of School: “take the long path” by thinking of yourself as an “ancestor” of future generations from now
  • how the school’s faith-based foundation naturally led to Mount Vernon becoming one of the most recognized leaders in the US (and beyond) in human-centered design thinking methodologies, inquiry-based learning practices, and innovation on and off campus

S1, Ep4:

Dr. Christopher Emdin

Los Angeles, California, US

When the indigenous and neoindigenous are silenced, they tend to respond to the denial of their voices by showcasing their culture in vivid, visceral, and transgressive ways.

Robert A. Naslund Endowed Chair in Curriculum Theory & Professor of Education, Rossier School of Education, University of Southern California (USC); Scholar / Griot in Residence, Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts (NY); (previous) Associate Director of the Institute for Urban and Minority Education and Director of the Science Education, Teachers College, Columbia University (NY); Creator, #HipHopEd, Science Genius BATTLES, and the CREATE Accelerator; “New York Times” Best Selling Author,For White Folks Who Teach In the Hood and the Rest of Ya’ll too

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • the ‘A’ in STEAM is more than the ‘Arts’ – it is also ‘Ancestory’ and ‘Authenticity’
  • “Every day is your chance to manufacture a piece of magic in the world.”
  • advice to schools and school leaders: “When we begin at learning, we devalue curiosity. When we rush to foster learning without invoking curiosity, we end up with a life-long accumulation of empty facts that have no roots. Curiosity provides the roots. It allows you to make meaning.”
  • music as the ultimate co-teacher
  • why ‘discovery’ may not be as important as ‘recovery: “School at its best is a process for recovery, particularly for the black and brown children I work with” because “school can devalue who you were before you arrived.”

S1, Ep5:

Gever Tulley

San Francisco, California, US

“Persistence and resilience only come from having been given the chance to work though difficult problems…When we protect children from every possible source of danger, we also prevent them from having the kinds of experiences that develop their sense of self-reliance, their ability to assess and mitigate risk, and their sense of accomplishment.”

Founder, Brightworks School; Co-Founder / Toy Inventor, Tinkering Labs; Co-Founder, Tinkering School; Author, “Fifty Dangerous Things (You Should Let Your Children Do)” & “Beware Dangerism!“; Speaker, TED (big stage in 2009)

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • his school purposefully “looks for evidence of magic” and was launched to defend the idea that “everything is interesting”
  • why would you invite a kid to “be a robot on Mars” as a strategic response to Covid and how do you scale that invitation to kids around the world?
  • build in “improvisational collaboration” across a school -> “create serendipitous overlaps where things emerge”
  • why an accessible power tool wall (drills, drivers, saws, etc) implicitly says to a young person: “We trust you” and “Use what you need to explore your idea”
  • letting elementary, middle, and high school kids co-build a 2-3 story structure called “Kid City” in an empty warehouse helped the school’s vision and pedagogy become real to everyone in year one

S1, Ep6:

Saba Ghole

Boston, Massachusetts, US

“We teach students how to navigate the messiness of the creative process, from inception to completion, by prototyping and testing.”

Co-Founder / Chief Creativity Officer, NuVu Studio & School; Urban Designer (Masters, MIT); Affiliate, Harvard’s Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society (research focus: the intersection of youth, education and technology); INK Fellow.

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • when visiting NuVu, you see high-visibility “works in progress” and “a culture of visualizing and sharing process” where it becomes possible to see how an idea evolves over time, where you can “see everything that a person is thinking”
  • NuVu instructors don’t often “know where things are headed” most of the time, but they are experts at building a foundation to help students know how to think
  • projects like “cyborg enhancement” are about enhancing human abilities by imagining both the future and also deep diving into diverse cultural legacies
  • how their students figure out that “learning rests on their shoulders” once they begin to “honor the strength of their work”.
  • they architecturally designed their spaces “to shift over time”.

S1, Ep7:

Rosan Bosch

Copenhagen, Denmark

The pandemic has made it very clear that we need to be able to learn anywhere. By placing the learner at the center – not only in the build environment but in all learning situations – learners can unleash their natural born curiosity and achieve 21st century skills that prepare them for an unpredictable future.

Founder / Creative Director, Rosan Bosch Studio (Global) focused on “creating playful learning spaces and innovative schools for creative and critical thinkers,” Author, “Play to Learn: Designing for Uncertainty;” “Designing for a Better World Starts at School“; and “Planning Learning Spaces: A Practical Guide for Architects, Designers and School Leaders.

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • “Space isn’t the solution; it is a tool.”
  • the “Pedagogy of Play”
  • you can’t force anyone to play but you can “train your playfulness”
  • why everyone – including teachers and administrators – need to learn how to fail in order to design better possibilities
  • a question for school leaders: Do we treat our community as living, breathing creatures who need different things or do we treat them as efficient machines moving towards the same outcomes?

S1, Ep8:

Scott Witthoft

Austin, Texas, US

“One of the cheapest ways to make a place active is to actually activate it with people—this is intuitively obvious, but is actually often overlooked. One of the most successful techniques people share with us is simply occupying an otherwise vacant spot—an off-cycle conference room, a lobby, a hallway. Find a place and do something there. Someone will either join in or send a memo. Either way, mission accomplished.”

Adjunct Lecturer, (d.school) Institute of Design, Stanford University; (previous) Associate Professor of Practice, University of Texas; Co-Author, “Make Space: How to Set the Scene for Creative Collaboration” and “This is a Prototype: the Curious Craft of Exploring New Ideas.”

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • be awesome at asking questions; linger longer in the questions
  • the positive power of “not-working-ness”
  • the negative irony of creating a ‘space for prototyping’ (like a formal maker space) can sometimes mean that prototyping doesn’t happen anywhere else
  • why Scott advocates for the inefficiency of teaching collaborations: “my knowledge is as not the boundary for any topic.”
  • prototyping isn’t ultimately about the ‘thing’ you design or the ‘solution’; it’s about “embodying questions” that need to be explored

S1, Ep9:

Raya Bidshahri

Dubai, United Arab Emirates

“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”

Founder / CEO, School of Humanity; Senior Project Manager, SciFest Dubai; Founder, Awecademy; BBC’s “100 Most Influential Women” (2019);

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • make “more time to make more mistakes”
  • they offer no classes; they only offer interdisciplinary challenges (and workshops)
  • School of Humanity invites learners to ‘act’ upon great challenges; they are not pressured to ‘solve’ those challenges
  • designing Orientation Week for the entire family, not just the learner: “Support from and for the entire family is critical in a truly online school.”
  • everyone (learner, facilitator, family, partner) arrives with her/his own ‘why’

S1, Ep10:

Jaime Casap

Phoenix, Arizona, US

“Don’t ask kids what they want to be when they grow up. Ask them what problems they want to solve.”

Venture Mentor, Coplex; (previous) Chief Education Evangelist, Google; Co-Founder, Phoenix Coding Academy; Co-Author, “On Our Street: Our First Talk About Poverty;” Founder, Ghetto People Productions; Education Video Blogger.

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • “Education often gets in the way of learning.”
  • “The world of education is not broken. It’s doing exactly what it was made to do. The world around education changed.” Thus: “our Education system is no longer relevant.”
  • “You don’t fail or succeed; you just constantly iterate.”
  • “Google for Education” launched two weeks after Jaime joined the Engineering team at Google; they wanted to “change communication and collaboration in education.” There was no expectation of entering the K-12 market until they noticed iPads; the K-12 work began with one client in Oregon to show proof-of-concept that the Chromebook made it so that any kid is “on campus” no matter where they are
  • key to the future: doubling down on “Human Skills” like storytelling or managing a problem: “I don’t care what my daughter’s subjects are. I just want her to be able to collaborate, solve problems, etc.”

S1, Ep11:

Dan Garvey

Hampton Bays, New York, US

“Too often we catch ourselves up in the seriousness of life and overlook the importance of laughter. I appreciate the opportunity to act as an “adult”, but we can never forget that even as adults we have to smile whenever we get a chance.”

Science Teacher, Mount Sinai High School (New York); (previous) Educator, THINK Global School.

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • why he believes: “Show kids you are willing to step into an uncomfortable realm of learning yourself.”
  • building a process so that you as a teacher can step back so that the students own what lies ahead
  • why he believes an ideal PBL project is one that “slows time down”
  • 2 barriers to PBL adoption in traditional schools: 1) schools measure the quantitative (from college matriculation to schools impacting local real estate values), and 2) existing learning cultures in a school or the larger community itself
  • what years of spearfishing have taught him about honoring the ‘learning’ process. Hint: the fish is not actually the goal.

S1, Ep12:

Daniel Kinzer

Honolulu, Hawaii, US

“My experience during COVID has strengthened my belief that our industrial educational systems need to be transformed into decentralized, highly autonomous, community and place-based units connected in a learning and living ecosystem.”

Founder, Pacific Blue Studios; Grosvenor Teacher Fellow, National Geographic Society; Leader Community Technologist, Purple Mai’a Foundation; Community Huki Leader, Malama Maunalua.

(5) Big Ideas from the Episode:

  • how do you build a global network for exploring ideas together?
  • “Great teachers are not delivering great content; they are nurturing great communities.”
  • being a National Geographic Society ‘explorer’ on expeditions from Antarctica to Hawaii
  • being part of a research project to connect the ‘myth’, ‘magic’ and ‘science’ of sharks to the ancestral pathways of ancient and modern island cultures
  • collaborating daily with hundreds of classrooms and thousands of students from around the world as his team livestreams new discoveries while mapping the deep ocean floor

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